Damion Hamilton Interview Part 1

Blowback
You work in warehouse?
Damion Hamilton
Yeah. I sort mail though and books.
Blowback
Office job?
Damion Hamilton
No. Blue jeans and standing on your feet.
Blowback
So do you feel this is meaningful work?
Damion Hamilton
Yeah, all work is meaningful, it could pay more. Waitresses and
janitors often complain about their jobs, but it's meaningful though.
Blowback
How do you define a meaningful job?
Damion Hamilton
Doing a valuable service for somebody else. Helping things go
along. A nice wage would be nice too. At my job, we ship books off
to people. Now I understand when I buy a book at a store, what all
goes into it. labor labor labor. But I'm glad I can buy a book at a
store.
Blowback
You take the humble approach to work recognizing that "many cogs
make up the machine
" and assign importance to being part of the
successful network to accomplish something useful, but many
people have a fantasy of doing something "special" and then go
about defining that very differently. You do not need to feel you
have some "special" or "unique" job that
"elevates" you above
others?
Damion Hamilton
No. I use to think that way. Like I'm a writer and an artist. And
should be getting paid for doing that. Shit, I still think that way. But
a lot of people can write and do artistic stuff. I guess I
'm maturing
a little.
Blowback
Yes artist "types" usually have a very inflated opinion of
themselves and imagine greatness, future Boswell biographers, and
that they somehow are "above" the everyday masses in some
manner. You have risen above this. What made you realize the folly
of this if you accept at all my premise?
Damion Hamilton
Just being around other artists, and knowing people who are really
talented and can do good artistic stuff, and being humbled by that.
Shit, there's talented people everywhere... an old man playing an
organ on a street corner. I use to complain about my day job, all
the time, still do. But, a little less now.
Blowback
So being around potentially egotistical artist types has had the
effect of humbling you?
Damion Hamilton
Yeah, the masses are just a real as the most awe inspiring artist.
Not that much different really
.
Damion Hamilton
Not being around them. But seeing what they do. I don't really get
to know that many people. But the forty hour work weeks humbles
you too.
Blowback
So why did you not go to/or finish college?
Damion Hamilton
Too hard... ADD.... couldn't pass algebra... needn't to work full
time. A lot of reasons. Might go back though.
Blowback
And if you did would you take creative writing or English courses,
or would you take a practical "career" oriented field of study?
Damion Hamilton
Creative writing, English, psychology, philosophy. Those courses
were interesting... Had a lot of trouble with math and science
courses though.
Blowback
There are a lot of unemployed creative writing majors. What would
you do with that?
Damion Hamilton
I have no idea. Perhaps teach. I wanted to learn more about writing
and writers.
Damion Hamilton
I'm really naive.
Blowback
Teaching, do you think you can handle that? I myself have a degree
that would enable me to teach but something about teaching
always felt "emasculating" as terrible as that sounds. And then
yesterday I read an article about how male teachers are an
endangered species, only 20% of the profession, and low pay, and
low status, and "suspicion" of sexual improprieties hang over them,
and I realized, this only confirmed my feelings I had
This wouldn't affect you in anyway?
Damion Hamilton
Maybe. Never tried it though. It's a hard to say something is until
you tried. Teaching does seem to be hard mentally though. But
teaching on the college level seem better though. High school
teachers, I feel for those guys, they go through a lot of shit. I had a
really tough English teacher in high school though, who was also
the wrestling coach. Nobody fucked with him. They were afraid.
Elementary doesn't seem that bad. They are generally too young, to
be badasses
.
Blowback
Yes, the terrors of the student body, indifference, punk/smart aleck
behaviors, nightmare parents, authoritarian administrative
staffs/principals, state mandated test preparation manias, it drives
I read over 50 percent of all new teachers out of the field within
five years
Damion Hamilton
I often amazed I made through high school. That experience was
insane and often terrifying and confusing.
Damion Hamilton
really?
Blowback
Yes I read these "facts" in the Miami Herald yesterday.
Damion Hamilton
Yeah, the educational system is a huge problem.
Blowback
Anyway when you where in high school did you consider yourself a
geek, a jock, burnout, Goth, punk, nerd, or just one of those people
that nobody seemed to know existed? lol
Damion Hamilton
No one knew I existed. I didn't know where I fit it. I was really
confused, and felt I like I thrown into some sort of tornado. I used
to eat lunch by myself. A couple guys tried to be my friends, and
eat lunch with me, but I didn't hang around them long. Appearance
wise, I guess I was a nerd. Had really big glasses, and didn't hair
cuts often. I was not cool. I should have read a
Catcher in the Rye.
It would have prepared me.
Blowback
I admire your candor! It's amazing how sometimes how someone
will try to "rewrite" the reality of how they were perceived to
strangers who have no way of verifying anything they say. I ask
these questions not as some rambling montage, but I want to seek
out the question of how you see your past and current place in
society and how that affects you as a writer.
Damion Hamilton
Yeah, be honest man. That's the truth. That lunch room was a scary
place. Everyone talking about each other and being phony and
trying to impress each other. Scary.
Blowback
So you agree with the premise that high school especially, but the
school experience can be a haunting, negative thing that can scar
and motivate people in all kinds of possible ways.
Damion Hamilton
Yeah, it's good to remember high school and I was conscious of my
place. Still I wished I had read Catcher in the Rye, before I went
through those four years, it would have prepared me.
Blowback
How would that book have prepared you?
Damion Hamilton
It's a bible for adolescence. Its sheds a great deal of light on
modern American pop culture and the adolescent experience, one
is a little less confused when one reads it.
Blowback
So do you think your life in high school would have been different
and presumably "better" had you read the catcher in the rye? I read
it high school as a sophomore, and to be honest with you it didn't
impact me too much at that time. I like it a lot more now.
Damion Hamilton
Oh you read. There's a lot powerful about it-- it goes right into the
teenage mind, and unveils a lot things. I think I would have been
less confused. I don't know, if the experience would have been
better though. I don't think I read anything in high school though,
except Mice and Men. I didn't think about writing or literature then.
Blowback
I was impressed as a senior with Of Human Bondage, and as a
junior, some things in Red Badge of Courage impressed me, as well
as passages in Uncle Toms Cabin, but I would say
Of Human
Bondage was the most impactful book I read, except for 1984
which I read on my own, and had a gigantic impact on me, but
really more as a political consciousness thing than literary,
although I realized it was an awesome novel in all aspects.
Damion Hamilton
See, I didn't read any of that stuff, when I was that age. Never
heard of human bondage-- will have to check it out though.
Damion Hamilton
Read red badge and 1984 though.Blowback
Of Human Bondage is great, I just read a Razors Edge by W.
Somerset Maugham also you might really relate to that, also Keep
the Aspidra flying, and Down and Out in Paris and London by
George Orwell, I suspect that you could really relate to them at
this point in your life.
Damion Hamilton
Yeah, read down and out in Paris and London-- good stuff. I'm
reading Grapes of Wrath now
Blowback
There is an excellent film adaptation of Keep the Aspididra Flying
too I loved it
.
Damion Hamilton
I'm impressed as hell with Steinbeck.
Damion Hamilton
Will have to check it out.
Blowback
He's excellent, I love Theodore Dreiser and
Sinclair Lewis too. Also Sherwood Anderson, Winesburg Ohio
Blowback
See the film A Place in the Sun. It's an adaptation of American
Tragedy, its great.
Damion Hamilton
Yeah, I just bought Sister Carrie, read some of Dreiser's short
stories though. Sherwood Anderson yeah, shit he could really write
huge influence on me.
Blowback
Also Confederacy of Dunces and The Moviegoer
And of course one of my all time favorites On the Road,
Damion Hamilton
Confederacy dunces will have to check out-- everyone says good
things about it
.
Blowback
But my favorite novel of all time just might be A Fan's Notes; I
can't exaggerate how great that is.
Damion Hamilton
Yeah, loved on the road. Had a hard time putting it down-- that
book sings to you
.
Blowback
Are you familiar with A Fan's Notes?
Damion Hamilton
No
Blowback
That is I think my favorite of all time.
Damion Hamilton
Who wrote it?
Blowback
Frederick Exeley, if you are a writer I can't imagine how you
couldn't like it. If you are a male especially it is awesome.
It took me a long time to finish that book because I found myself
reading a paragraph and then rereading it several times I was so
impressed.